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        The Gentlemen's Ale Sampling Society

        1982-2008  26 years of enjoyment

NEXT MEETING DETAILS ARE FURTHER DOWN THE PAGE

But first - something completely different

An unusual exchange of views regarding payment of Monthly Subscriptions

Dear Brian,

I am in receipt of the recent GASS invoice, which I see that you have raised in your new position as Honorary Assistant to the Deputy Treasurer.

I have absolutely no problems paying the annual subscriptions as outlined on the invoice so there is no dispute in that area.

With regards to the bet money from Stockbury, I know that you have mentioned this in the past but as I was so pissed that evening I really have no recollection of any bet or whether I failed to win it.

Under the circumstances (and especially as you have mentioned it on numerous occasions now), I will happily include the £50 bet money.

Finally, I do have a problem with the £40 fine levied.  Firstly, I know of no such GASS Rule and if one was to brought in then no doubt there would have to be a vote on this.  In addition, as you are no doubt fully aware, these sort of rules cannot be made retrospectively (unless you are a Labour Government in the UK).

Indeed if I was to pay the full subscriptions for the year now (which I am doing), I would actually be paying only two months into this year, so does that mean I get a rebate?  As Honorary Treasurer for many years I spent countless hours chasing GASS members for unpaid subscriptions and there was never any mention of a fine or interest to be levied on those members, so to randomly impose this arbitrary fine is outside the scope of current GASS rules.

Hopefully this matter has now been resolved and in future I will pay my subscriptions annually in advance in order to avoid being unexpectedly and unnecessarily reprimanded in front of fellow GASS Members.

yours sincerely,

Hugh

Yours sincerely,

 Dear Hugh,

Thanks for your letter regarding your GASS subscriptions.  I am not quite sure why you are writing to me, a bit of ‘shoot the messenger’ I think. 

Your letter expresses your displeasure at the Treasurer and Deputy Chairman having the cheek to point out that you had not paid your subscriptions since August.

Personally I think you should be making all these points to the members, not me. and so to save you having to bring the matter up at the Christmas meeting I will put your letter, and my reply, on the website. 

Your points are:-

1. You have no recollection of any bet from Stockbury:  You bet GASS £50 that you could eat every dessert on the menu.  A vast mound of desserts were produced, (and added to the GASS bill costing us all about £50).  You did well, but ultimately failed to eat them all.  Done and dusted, £50 owed.  I am the Secretary and put it in the minutes at the time.  Up until now you have never argued the details of your bet.  I mentioned it because others mentioned it to me.
2. You do not want to pay the £40 fine:  The fine was levied at the last meeting by the Fines Secretary, based on the fact that you have not paid any subscriptions since August.  You say that for the Fines Secretary to fine you would require a vote and the passing of a new rule.  I actually though the Fines Secretary could do what he likes and normally fines people for doing daft things.  I simply can’t resist pointing out that some may think the same logic would apply to anyone wanting to vary the ‘Fees £40 Monthly by Standing Order’ rule.  GASS might have wanted to vote on whether to allow individual members to pay subscriptions a year in arrears.
3. You dislike being unexpectedly and unnecessarily reprimanded in front of fellow GASS members:  Why tell me?   Len was not at the meeting so passed on to me his concerns.  I passed the information on to Phil as Deputy Chairman and he brought it up, very humorously I thought.  No harm done.  It would be totally wrong for Len to keep secret from the remainder of GASS that you were not paying monthly subscriptions, he was obliged to let everyone know.

The long and the short of it is we all pay our fees monthly.  You decided, completely independently, to pay yours a year in arrears.  This was very politely brought up at the AGM through a note in the accounts and we hoped you would take the hint.  In retrospect maybe it would have been better to have had a full blown debate at the AGM, but we did not want to make a mountain out of a molehill.    If we all paid a year in arrears GASS would be in debt for £1,000 a month, hardly a workable proposal. 

The points you make in your letter are a matter for the whole of GASS, not for a private discussion with me.  You decided to put your views in an open letter, so I have given you the courtesy of an open reply.  The members can draw their own conclusions by reading our exchange of views at their leisure.  Saves boring them at Christmas!

Honours even, subscriptions paid, now lets forget it.

All that remains is for you to convince everyone you don’t owe the £40 fine!!!!!!!!    Good luck.

All the best,

Brian

The Next Meetings

DECEMBER

Thursday 18th - new date

DOWNTOWN - VICTORIA'S

On the A20 as you pass through Harrietsham

Sorry about the date change - the venue cancelled on us at very short notice for the first Tuesday due to lack of numbers.

To make up for it they given us a table for 18 at their best evening, at £40 instead of the normal £60 per head.

I have already bought the quiffs, so please try and make it.

CHRISTMAS CABARET DISCO DINNER

We have a table booked at this well known 'kentish kabaret' venue. 

For anyone that knows it it was always used to be the place NOT to be seen,

but it is new hands and they were great on the phone.  The new gaff will have a 350 capacity,

and it only opens at the end of November, just in time for GASS!

The deal is:

7.00 doors open - Paying bar until 8.00

From 8.00 on ALL DRINKS ARE FREE

(except only Champagne)

8.15 - Dinner

Choice of three starters - Carvery Dinner - choice of six desserts

10.30 Cabaret

Singing, dancing, audience participation

11.30 - 1.00

Disco and FREE bar (did I mention the free bar?)

The cost is £45 per head, which considering the ALL DRINKS ARE FREE bit (I did mention that didn't I?), I think is very reasonable.

They don't take big tables of blokes - but after I explained who we are they agreed to take us - weird or what!

I have booked a table for 18 and will try and get actual numbers attending nearer the time.

TEDDY BOY QUIFFS.

Brian has acquired  18 quality quiffs (as the cabaret was Grease) - but don't let this hold you back.

The cabaret is now Michael Jackson, so use that as your dress theme for the night!  We will still wear the quiffs!

JANUARY

Pub meeting

Nintendo Wii competition (and Pig Racing)

organisor - Tony

The Aviator Pub, Sheerness

(over the bridge, left at roundabout, over the next one, and it is just along the road)

FEBRUARY

Middle cost meeting?  -  budget of around £800

MARCH

Awayday Meeting

ZORBING

www.zorbing.co.uk

Suggested by Phil R, the opportunity to roll down a steep hill in Croydon

APRIL

Pub Meeting?

MAY

Middle cost meeting?

JUNE

Awayday Meeting

GO KARTING - SITTINGBOURNE

JULY

Middle cost meeting?

AUGUST

CROQUET - at Pete's